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Hi All,

Checks performed with a 150w consumer/load shows 13.2v on my multimeter feed at the rectifier and 12.9v on the cockpit instrumentation. Getting 15VAC at idle and all other checks as per HMM are right in the middle of the tolerances. Right on the low end of the scale I know, but the new battery will not charge and the fuel pump circuit breaker seems to keep popping when going for test flights. Technically speaking the stator/generator is in good health still yeah?...

Switch to one fuel pump only when in flight - the circuit breaker will pop here after a while of flying, then there is the radio, transponder, strobes, motorised constant speed propeller and some odd instruments that are being powered.

The plane has been shipped over from America and meant to have being flying okay with all of this stuff going. There is no auxiliary generator fitted, just the stock internal. Good for 15 amps continuous right?

150w load divided 12v = 12.5Amps draw at test

Guess I need to put everything on at once and establish the total Amp draw. Does it sound like a case of simply too much out and not enough going back in do you think?

Any thoughts and advice welcome as ever please folks. Thanks in advance...
  • Re: Europa 914 Circuit breaker & Charging Issues

    by » 9 years ago


    sounds like the fuel pump is overloaded, check for a plugged inlet filter.

  • Re: Europa 914 Circuit breaker & Charging Issues

    by » 9 years ago


    First, if you are measuring 13.2v at the rectifier and 12.9v at the power input to the avionics at the same time, or the cockpit instrumentation is showing a reading of 12.9v at the same time that your multimeter is showing 13.2v, then it appears that there is a .3v loss which indicates that there is some resistance (causing the voltage drop) between the two measurement points, or that the multimeter and the cockpit instrumentation are not calibrated the same. You might wish to confirm that you actually have a voltage difference by using the multimeter at both locations, and, if so, you may have a loose connection causing the resistance that is indicated by the voltage drop.

    Don't simply try to wiggle the connections, although if they do wiggle, then you definitely have something loose. You need to put a wrench/screwdriver to work and make sure that the contacts are clean and tight. You may also want to measure the resistance between the rectifier and the instruments to make sure that it is zero, and in doing so, also check on the "outside" of the wire making the connection so that any resistance in the connections will show up. (NOTE: By this I mean checking both the resistance of the wire from end to end, as well as the resistance between the connectors, NOT "outside" the insulation.)

    The fact that the new battery does not charge and the circuit breaker keeps popping leads me to believe that you have a loose connection.

    Also, if you are certain that the load is 150W, then the current draw is only about 11.5A, as your voltage is close to 13v (12.9v vs. 13.2v), so that should not be popping the 15 A breaker.

    Sandy

  • Re: Europa 914 Circuit breaker & Charging Issues

    by » 9 years ago


    Hi folks,

    Firstly, thank you very much for the replies.

    On doing some other checks, as in switching on the various instruments and accessories after the engine was fired up, everything is fine, charging okay, but as soon as you switch the strobe lights on, the power just runs away and the charging voltage drops down to the 12.9v as indicated on the cockpit panel. So the problem would seem to be around the use of these. Could this be a simple wiring issue that needs resolving, bad earth or something? The unit that works these strobes has a problem maybe?...


    I now have a problem with the orange turbo light flashing. The servo doesn't seem to be moving/chattering at power on, so is it safe just to replace that do you think, as I am not able to interrogate the TCU with my PC.

    I will double check the inlet filter when I next visit the aircraft.

    Again, thoughts, comments, advice and experience appreciated.

    Many Thanks,

    Bob

  • Re: Europa 914 Circuit breaker & Charging Issues

    by » 9 years ago


    Hi Bob,

    "the power just runs away". What does this mean? Do you mean the voltage just drops off?
    At what rpm are you experiencing your voltage drop? If it is at low idle rpms this may be normal. If it is at 3000+ rpm then it may be cause to check the wiring and or amp draw on those lights.
    The lights may have a wiring issue.You said you have only a 12.5 amp draw under normal conditions. It could be a wiring issue like a poor ground or maybe those lights have a high amp draw on them. It almost sounds like you are pulling too many amps from the engine?

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: Europa 914 Circuit breaker & Charging Issues

    by » 9 years ago


    Hi Roger,

    Thank you. Yes, you are quite correct in your assumption. The voltage just drops off and it is at the higher RPM. I don't know the make/manufacturer of the strobes, so unable to ascertain any watt/amp information, though I realise that I can rework the calculation to show watts (as stated on the bulb) divided by volts equals amps. Take the bulbs out and see what is stamped on them!

    I think that I might try and convince the owner to purchase a new set of strobes of a known value and then replace what's there. Just seem to be wasting lots of investigation time on this aircraft.

    Thanks again,

    Bob

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