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  • Re: Mandatory fuel return line

    by » 7 years ago


    All the 1800 912ULS Flight Designs in the world are set to go back to the gascolator and has been for 15 years. Granted the gascolator may not be ideal, but if there is no better option like a header tank then it will still see cooler fuel. The later FD CT's with the 912iS engine go back to a header tank.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: Mandatory fuel return line

    by » 6 years ago


    For information, the following report (in french...) by the Swiss Transportation Safety Investigation Board explains that when the return line is connected to the gascolator, the bubbles are not eliminated. You have to connect the return line to the fuel tank tank. It was confirmed by FD and by tests of the board.
    Following this incident, Rotax changed the English installation manual from "you should install a return line" to "you have to". This was a translation error as the German version of the manual already stated that the return line was mandatory.
    CT also declared they would change the fuel circuit and connect the return line to the left fuel tank,

    french: https://www.sust.admin.ch/inhalte/AV-berichte/2253_f.pdf
    German: https://www.sust.admin.ch/inhalte/AV-berichte/2253_d.pdf

    Thank you said by: Bill Hertzel, RotaxOwner Admin

  • Re: Mandatory fuel return line

    by » 6 years ago


    English Translation Provided by OnLineDocTranslator.Com
    Keep in mind that there will be something lost in the translation as this is a literal computer translation.
    You will need to be forgiving of some phrases and need to read between the lines.

    I had to split it because of the file size limits on this forum.

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    Bill Hertzel
    Rotax 912is
    North Ridgeville, OH, USA
    Clicking the "Thank You" is Always Appreciated by Everyone.


    Thank you said by: RotaxOwner Admin

  • Re: Mandatory fuel return line

    by » 5 years ago


    Hi Bill. I am asking a question on the mandatory return fuel line on the 912 uls. I ran my return line to the right inlet side of my gascolator. My plane is a zenith 701 high wing. I have noticed that my right tank will not empty during flight. The fuel is consumed from the left tank. If I land some where and let the plane set for a good while the right tank level will drop and the left tank will be fuller than it was right after landing. could the problem be that the fuel return line does not let the right tank feed during flight. I am worried that I will starve the engine of fuel if I fly over 1 1/2 hours. I have two 7 gal wing tanks. burning 5 gal per hour. My tanks do not have an extra opening to accept fuel from the return fuel line.

    Jerry Griego

    email: dusty418@msn.com


  • Re: Mandatory fuel return line

    by » 5 years ago


    I see your problem as you are creating a small amount of backpressure in the Right side-feed hose.

    A column of gasoline produces about 1 psi for every 3ft of depth.

    If your fuel tanks are (for the sake of argument) 6 feet above the gascolator, there is about 2 psi of pressure being produce by the fuel column.

    Now let's assume your fuel tanks are 9 inches in depth.

    That means that if one tank is empty and the other full, you will have about 1/4 psi of differential pressure.

    If you let it sit on the ground long enough the full tank will cross feed to the empty tanks until they are both equal and half full.

    When the engine is running, the bypass fuel flow entering the right side, only needs to produce 1/4 psi to stop the fuel from feeding from the right tank.

    Once the left tank empties and the left fuel line starts to go dry, (just guessing here!!!) you might end up with a 3 ft fuel column in the half-empty left fuel hose and a 6 ft fuel column in the full right hose.

    The 3 ft differential will now produce a full 1pis differential pressure and the right tank will begin flowing.

    You probably will not run out of gas, but it sure will be scarry to test this theory!

    There are two issues here.

    You could join the two fuel tank feeds together BEFORE the Gascolator and connect this common fuel feed to one port on the gascolator and use the second port for the bypass fuel feed Only.

    That would solve the imbalanced fuel feed issue.

    The bypass feed to the gascolator is a problem in itself.

    When the gas goes through the fuel pump, it is like shaking a can of soda.

    When the shaken gas becomes depressurized as it squirts out of the bypass orifice, it "fizzes" and produces gas bubbles that really need to be vented and not recycled back to the gascolator.

    The saving grace of the Carbureted engine is that it has a mini header tank in the form of the carb fuel bowls.

    A momentary air bubble entering the fuel bowl will get vented out the fuel bowl vent and as long as the bubbles are not too large or coming too often, you will not notice that it is happening.

    The fuel-injected engines are another story.

    While the carb'd engine can tolerate a momentary fuel pressure loss, the fuel injectors are very sensitive to any pressure fluctuations.

    The fuel bypass line needs to return to a vented location in the fuel system.

    Or as a minimum, but not an ideal situation, there needs to be an electric Auxillary Fuel pump located BEFORE the gascolator.

    The bubbles are Not AIR Bubbles, they are Fuel bubbles containing mostly Butane gas and can be collapsed under pressure back into their liquid state.

    This will allow you to pressurize and collapse the fuel vapor bubbles in the event of a vapor lock situation.

    A vent port can be added to almost any tank for  under $3 by punching a 1/2" hole and installing a Fuel Fitting and Bushing.

     

     


    Bill Hertzel
    Rotax 912is
    North Ridgeville, OH, USA
    Clicking the "Thank You" is Always Appreciated by Everyone.



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