Re: Friction Torque direction query
by Byron Mills » 3 years ago
Tyler Hathaway wrote:The scale, of course, just reads pounds. It's multiplying by the distance from the center that makes it foot-pounds, inch-pounds, or whatever.
Absolutely! we need a force (kg, newtons, pound) and a datum length (mm, m, inches) to calculate a torque!
Re: Friction Torque direction query
by Rotax Wizard » 3 years ago
Byron, just one word of caution. The force you are looking for is the one when it is actually sliding...not the break-away at the start of the movement. Sometimes there is a slight stick at the start and it will drop a bit as it moves. What we need to measure is the force of the springs against the dogs inside the gearbox. If there is a very large drop from break-away to sliding it suggests that you may be developing a "pocket" at the ramp to dog position. Some high time engines develop this and usually these will have complaints of vibration also. Just my observations on high time gearboxes.
Cheers
Re: Friction Torque direction query
by Tyler Hathaway » 3 years ago
Well, but isn't static friction always greater than kinetic friction?
What would we consider as a "very large drop"?
Re: Friction Torque direction query
by Roger Lee » 3 years ago
Read the poundage as you pull through the entire arc. It may start at the very begining a tad higher, but as you pull through the arc it tends to smooth out. This also depends on the person pulling on the gauge not to be jerky. Just a nice even steady pull. It can vary a half pound or so as you pull from not being a steady pull. That said I usually do it 3 times just to make sure my number is good and I take the average. If when you pull through and the number is let's say 16.5 lbs. and it bounces a little up to 17 lbs. as you pull then pick the average of 16.7 or 16.8 lbs. Remember this isn't a critical absolute number. It just has to be within the normal working friction spec range. So if your final number in total inch pounds is off 5 -15 inch lbs it won't be a big deal.
So if you did it once and the result was 480 in/lbs and you did it again and it was 470 in/lbs it won't make any difference. It's just so long as you are within specs.
Roger Lee
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