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We are located in South Texas. Today the temperature was around 85 to 88 degrees Fahrenheit. The aircraft is an RV-12 with a 912 ULS engine.
Our RV-12 had just completed about 1.7 hours of an uneventful flight. During the 1.7 hour flight the pilot made one stop mid-morning for breakfast. The plane started and flew after the first stop with no problems. The second stop was around Noon. After the second stop, the plane sat out in the sun for about an hour before it was started again. During run up at 3900 rpm the engine quit. It did this 2 more times. On the 4th attempt, the engine started and keep running at 3900 rpm. The pilot felt comfortable taking off and the airplane flew another .7 hours with no problems.

We burn Shell 93 octane.
The fuel was not fresh but it may have been 6 weeks old. It is hard to say because we would add fuel as needed. The last fuel was added about 2 weeks ago. In Texas they sell a winter blend and a summer blend. It is our understanding that the refineries are just switching over to a summer blend due to the rising average temperatures in our area.

The fuel shutoff was checked to make sure it was firmly in the on position. The electric fuel pump is working.

He confirmed that the choke was closed.

The pilot did not check the fuel pressure when this was happening.

This is my aircraft but I was not flying it today. I have put over 400 hours on it over a 5 year period in all types of weather and I have never had this problem.

I would appreciate any insight to this problem.

Thank you,

Bob
  • Re: Engine quit

    by » 5 years ago


    Probably had some vapor in the fuel lines. To help this on startup run the engine at a little higher rpm and try to get some cooler fuel into the hoses. You ran the engine on the first flight and then it sat and heat soaked everything under the cowl. You can help this some when you land leave open the oil door and let the heat rising come out. As the heat rises up and out it will draw some cooler air in from the bottom.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


    Thank you said by: Robert J. Dean

  • Re: Engine quit

    by » 5 years ago


    Sounds like vapor lock to me. Do you have the fuel bypass line installed?

    Thank you said by: Robert J. Dean

  • Re: Engine quit

    by » 5 years ago


    As Roger suggested, leaving the oil access door open during stops really helps to evacuate hot air from the engine compartment (and I suspect improves the life of the fiberglass cowling and internal rubber components as well). I have also found it useful to let the electric fuel pump run for 30-60 seconds prior to a hot start to force some cooler fuel through the fuel lines.

    Thank you said by: Robert J. Dean

  • Re: Engine quit

    by » 5 years ago


    It might be helpful to use a mix, perhaps 75% auto and 25% 100LL.

    Thank you said by: Robert J. Dean

  • Re: Engine quit

    by » 5 years ago


    Texas uses "Winter "Gas up until June 1st.
    https://www.tceq.texas.gov/airquality/mobilesource/vetech/fuelprograms.html

    Winter gas will "Vapor Lock" at 100°F at 1000 MSL.
    85°F plus a Hot Engine and add some Sun and 100°F or more should be easily attainable.
    Summer gas will buy you another 20°F.
    A 100°F Sunny Texas day and even Summer Gas will be at risk.

    This is a primary reason that the addition of the Bypass/Bleeder hose after the fuel Pump is recommended for All installations.
    With the addition of an AUX Fuel Pump, you can circulate fuel and cool the fuel lines before even attempting a start.
    Full fuel flow is always moving through the hoses even when the engine is using very little (Idle) or none at all (Off).

    Bill Hertzel
    Rotax 912is
    North Ridgeville, OH, USA
    Clicking the "Thank You" is Always Appreciated by Everyone.


    Thank you said by: Robert J. Dean

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