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I keep seeing this way too often usually from A&P's. Just so people know here in the US if an aircraft has a published checklist from the aircraft mfg you can't say in the logbook you inspected it under Part 43. Part 43 is generic and doesn't cover many items on your individual plane. I ask the FAA directly about this years ago. 

Print out the Rotax and aircraft Mfg's maint. inspection checklist and use it. Don't leave yourself open for FAA issues, insurance issues and open for a civil liability case. I print both out, fill in the info and if I touch it, tweek it, change it, torque it, ect,, I annotate it in the checklist margins and write it in the logbook. The checklist are the owners to keep. I've done this since the first day I became a mechanic. I come from the medical field and documentation is everything. I've seen many people burned to the ground in court, but I never was due to good documentation. I listened to the lawyer's in medical school. These will help protect the owner and the mechanic.


Roger Lee
LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
520-349-7056 Cell

  • Re: Annual inspection logbook entry - Part 43

    by » 3 days ago


    Roger is correct...please read Part 91 on this matter...for experimental and light sport it actually states that 43 does not apply.  You have to inspect it to the OEM or kit supplier manual of that aircraft.  If they refer to using the Rotax inspection lists then you are obligated to follow them in my opinion. 

    NOTE Para ( c ) ....A and B do do NOT apply as they do for certified aircraft.  The OEM manual trumps that requirement. 

    Excerpt from FARs Part 91..

    § 91.409 Inspections.

    (a) Except as provided in paragraph (c) of this section, no person may operate an aircraft unless, within the preceding 12 calendar months, it has had—

    (1) An annual inspection in accordance with part 43 of this chapter and has been approved for return to service by a person authorized by § 43.7 of this chapter; or

    (2) An inspection for the issuance of an airworthiness certificate in accordance with part 21 of this chapter.

    No inspection performed under paragraph (b) of this section may be substituted for any inspection required by this paragraph unless it is performed by a person authorized to perform annual inspections and is entered as an “annual” inspection in the required maintenance records.

    (b) Except as provided in paragraph (c) of this section, no person may operate an aircraft carrying any person (other than a crewmember) for hire, and no person may give flight instruction for hire in an aircraft which that person provides, unless within the preceding 100 hours of time in service the aircraft has received an annual or 100-hour inspection and been approved for return to service in accordance with part 43 of this chapter or has received an inspection for the issuance of an airworthiness certificate in accordance with part 21 of this chapter. The 100-hour limitation may be exceeded by not more than 10 hours while en route to reach a place where the inspection can be done. The excess time used to reach a place where the inspection can be done must be included in computing the next 100 hours of time in service.

    (c) Paragraphs (a) and (b) of this section do not apply to—

    (1) An aircraft that carries a special flight permit, a current experimental certificate, or a light-sport or provisional airworthiness certificate;

    Cheers


  • Re: Annual inspection logbook entry - Part 43

    by » 3 days ago


    The FAA begs to differ.  AC65-32A “Certification of Repairmen (Light-Sport Aircraft)” has logbook entries.  Here is the suggested condition inspection entry from Appendix 1, page 1

    FIGURE 1. SAMPLE ENTRY FOR ANNUAL CONDITION INSPECTION FOR AN
    EXPERIMENTAL LIGHT-SPORT AIRCRAFT (ELSA)
    REGISTRATION NUMBER: N1995T
    DATE: 3/15/06
    AIRCRAFT TOTAL TIME: 436.2 hours.
    I certify that this aircraft has been inspected in accordance with the scope and detail of
    14 CFR part 43, appendix D on this date and is found to be in a condition for
    safe operation.
    /s/ Patrick Poteen
    Patrick Poteen, Repairman LSI 123456789

    AC is attached.

     

     

    41218_2_ac 65-32a.pdf (You do not have access to download this file.)

  • Re: Annual inspection logbook entry - Part 43

    by » 2 days ago


    Here's right out of the doc you quoted...

    b. Annual Condition Inspection. """A detailed inspection accomplished once a year on a LSA in accordance with instructions provided in the maintenance manual supplied with the
    aircraft. The purpose of the inspection is to look for any wear, corrosion, or damage that would cause an aircraft to not be in a condition for safe operation.""" Plus your document even says to add to the generic part 43 checklist. I've never seen anyone I've talk to add any specifics totheir use of part 43. Plus it quotes this "

    """ . The inspection checklist in AC 90-89, Amateur-Built Aircraft and Ultralight Flight
    Testing Handbook, Appendix 1, meets the scope and detail of part 43, appendix D and is highly recommended as a guide to develop an inspection checklist for individual makes and models of  fifixed wing aircraft

    If it has a published maint. Checklist you have to use it. 

    You said experimemtal. Plus it doesn't  spell out which aircraft it pertains to. This is why that logbook entry can be confusing and misinterpreted. You can use it for home built and some experimentals, but not SLSA. Even then the FAA told me part 43 was too generic and wanted owners to add specifics to their part 43  8nspect about their specific aircraft. I checked with the FAA years ago and they are the ones that told me. If there is a published checklist from that aircraft mfg and they say to follow it then you have to use the aircraft mfg checklist. Otherwise if you used the very generic part 43 you'd miss have the things that are only specific to your aircraft. Why open that door for a lawyer in court for missing items on your aircraft that part 43 didn't cover. There are a few contradictory things in the FAR's and too many people misinterpret them. 

     Don't talk to the Oklahoma guys they're wrong half the time. I did a research project years ago and questioned 4 of them about some LSA regs. They all got the regs wrong and got mad because I sighted the correct answer. They asks me why I questioned them if I already knew the answers. I told them I wanted to hear what they had to say and what they were telling people.  I suggested if you're not sure of the answer then tell the owner you'll research it and call them back. Now I only deal with the FAA legal dept. In Washington. I have two legal projects with them gping on as we speak. I just wish they weren't so slow. These two issues I'm working on has half the FAA  on one side and the other half on the other side. The legal dept. agreed with me. 


    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: Annual inspection logbook entry - Part 43

    by » 2 days ago


    I agree 100% for an S-LSA.  An E-LSA is different which is what I pasted above from the AC.  The AC refers to logbook entry in section 303:

    (2) Annual Condition Inspection Checklist. The inspection checklist may be one designed by the manufacturer of the aircraft or one developed by a certificated person performing the inspection. The inspection checklist must meet the scope and detail of part 43,appendix D.

    (4) The certificated person performing the inspection must record it in the aircraft’s maintenance records in accordance with the inspection statement in the aircraft’s operating limitations. (See Appendix 1, Figure 1, Sample Entry for Annual Condition Inspection for an Experimental Light-Sport Aircraft (ELSA)).

    Additionally, the aircraft’s Airworthiness Cert defines how the aircraft is to be inspected.  I think it’s pretty generic for E-LSA conversions so mine is likely representative.  In Section 9 of my AW cert:

    ….it has had a condition inspection performed per the scope and detail of Part43, Appendix D, manufacturer or FAA-approved program.

    It goes on to give example language that is replicated in the AC.  So for an E-LSA you can go with Part 43 or the manufacturers checklist.  Of course, the manufacturer’s checklist is likely more comprehensive.


  • Re: Annual inspection logbook entry - Part 43

    by » Yesterday


    If the ELSA has a published Mfg checklist you should be using it. Published is the key word. 

    i.e.

    I have Flight Design CT's comer into my shop that used to be SLSA and the owner took it to ELSA. It still has a published checklist. 


    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


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