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  • Re: 17mm coolant hose and 90 degree hose 922192

    by » 11 years ago


    I was just showing the closest inch equivalent of 17mm since you posted 11/16".
    The 17mm hose that you buy from Rotax is from Conti. and it's a wrapped hose. Nothing wrong with the spring clamps unless you use the wrong size hose or you abuse those clamps a little too much and they aren't quite as tight. I have been measuring them and some I have tossed.
    11/16" isn't in the maint. Manual, 17mm is and that's what all the US distributors sell for the 4 bottom coolant hoses under the cyl. and on top off the tank except for the 90 degree hose. I have seen a couple MFG's use an 18mm from the aircraft Mfg. I haven't seen a single US LSA aircraft come through my shop in 9 years with 11/16". Where are you finding any Gates 11/16" heater hose? It isn't in their catalog or store. Rotax has used Gates fuel hose before, but no 11/16" heater hose that I know of. If you have a Gates catalog link for the appropriate 11/16" or 17mm heater hose please post it so I can see it.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: 17mm coolant hose and 90 degree hose 922192

    by » 11 years ago


    Hi Andrew

    You are right about that hose being a lot smaller diameter than 17mm. It will fit because it has to fit, it will just need a good push and a wiggle with maybe a bit of lube to get it on properly.

    ...

    How much was the 17mm hose from Rotax?


    The 17mm hose was around $100 for 2 metres. It wasn't as bad as I was expecting having heard others complain of the cost, and it's probably worth it if it is easier to install onto the fittings. But since that one hose is so much smaller i.e. much less than 16mm it casts a bit of doubt on those who suggest that substituting 16mm hose might cause problems.

    The only other consideration is that one too small hose, installed first, might be easier to manage than fighting with too small hoses once you have several already installed (specifically, on top of the engine).

    I would have no real qualms using automotive hose instead of Rotax hose since that is what will be running to/from the radiator anyway.

  • Re: 17mm coolant hose and 90 degree hose 922192

    by » 11 years ago


    Hi Roger

    As I said in my last post, the hose size is 17mm. 11/16" is what I think some one in the states would look for as I didn't think they made radiator hose in 64" increments.

    The Hose that Rotax has always used until they changed it a years or two ago was Gates 17mm diameter heater hose.

    If anybody has smooth hose on their engine and not the new rougher finished wrapped hose, it will be Gates 17mm hose.
    You know this, and I know this. What is the problem?

    This hose costs £5 per metre. Why would you want to spend 10 times more for the same thing.

  • Re: 17mm coolant hose and 90 degree hose 922192

    by » 5 years ago


    Okay, I've read through this again, but what's the bottom line?  What size hoses and what hose clamps and where should I get the parts and what are the part numbers? 

    I am a newly opened one-man LSA shop with a bunch of customers who want 5-year rubber replacements and I hate them.  (The rubber replacements, not the customers.)  Roger, "But I stick with Rotax hoses. As a mechanic, I'm not willing to experiment on other planes and accept the civil liability..."  I agree wholeheartedly working on other people's airplanes is a huge responsibility.  Using constant tension spring clamps allows the connection to expand and contract with the heating and cooling cycle of engine operation, but the clamp needs to be the correct size.  I am constantly chasing coolant leaks on aircraft which use worm drive clamps which don't have this capability.   But trying to put too small a hose on some of the fittings, particularly those under the engine where space is limited, is near impossible.  I have ordered some 17mm hose from some of the Rotax suppliers and what I got was garbage.  I know it is not proper form to name names but where can I get the right parts for the job?  

    "The right tool for the job makes the mechanic happy and a happy mechanic makes the owner even happier." 

    "In aircraft maintenance, good enough is not good enough.  Do it right or don't do it at all."  

     

     


    Jeffrey Fritts, USAF (ret.)

    www.flywwlsa.com

    "In aircraft maintenance, good enough is not good enough."


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