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I have a evektor sportstar with a 912ULS I purchased recently. They had been flying it with 100LL most of its time, I flew first 10 hours with 100LL then filled it up with 91 E0 mogas from local airport. I also changed and gapped all spark plugs, changed oil, flushed coolant and filled with prestone dexcool. Since all this I have only flown in pattern because my CHTs rise to the 240-250 range. Yesterday one indicated 255. I flushed coolant system out again to make sure I didn't have any air in system and I refilled. Verified capacity and quantity filled with are equal. I rechecked spark plug gaps too (0.027).

Does anyone have any ideas on what could be my next item to check to determine what has caused the cht increase. When I flew it home on 100LL I would rarely have a cht above 220, they seemed to live around 215. It seems most logical the cause could be something with the mogas since that is the only change I can point a finger at. But being the 912 was designed for mogas, could this be? Am I missing something else? Disclaimer: im no engine expert or A/P
  • Re: 912ULS High CHT. can't determine why

    by » 9 years ago


    Hi Zach,

    One question: How is the oil temp and EGT's if you have them?
    With CHT's like this I would expect the oil temp to be up too?
    What is the max WOT RPM of the engine in flat and level flight? It should be at least 5500 rpm WOT. If not and it is lower you will create a lot more heat from engine overload. Generally speaking this puts your take off rpm around 4950 +/- to 5000 +/- rpm.

    Your CHT's shouldn't be that hot regardless of the fuel.
    You either have an airflow issue, a coolant flow issue or possibly an air pocket somewhere in the engine.

    Make sure no hoses have kinks, make sure you have no air pockets, make sure there isn't any restrictions in the radiator. This usually happens from rubber flakes off the hose or some dirt interjection in the system from dirty coolant.


    I flew yesterday with an OAT of 92F. Oil temp was 218F and the Cht's were around 205F. These can change depending on throttle setting.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: 912ULS High CHT. can't determine why

    by » 9 years ago


    Hey Roger,
    Oil temps are running between 210-220. My EGT gauges are inop, I assumed the probes need replacing. This afternoon I just went and drained left tank and filled back with 100LL to eliminate that question of fuel detonation. I checked all radiator hoses for kinks, finding none. Coolant level was visibly ok. On ground I ran up WOT and CHTs were over 250 within about 2-3 minutes. RPMs were 5000. Oil temp got to 215. OAT was 88 F. It definitely seems like a coolant system issue, I just can't find it. I guess I will have to give up and let an AP figure it out. I was too hesitant to take it up today in the pattern with the CHTs over 250 on he ground.

    Another question, I have only 2 cht readout and 2 EGT readout, but I saw there are 4 probes, one on each exhaust or cylinder. Does the dynon just give an average temp for each side and display as 2 readouts only? This plane is still new to me. The engine has 1600 hours on it, but I put about 25 on it myself before having any of these cht issues. It all started with a spark cap plug coming off on a bottom plug. I had a bad ignition check, we pulled the cowl, replaced that spark plug cover, and all spark plugs, and drained coolant and replaced. Since then I have had the cht issue. I'm sure there is some likely cause I just can't find it. And I never see 5500 RPMs so maybe I will have the prop angle checked as well.

  • Re: 912ULS High CHT. can't determine why

    by » 9 years ago


    The 7" D120 Dynon has two read outs for the CHT's because Rotax has one on the #2 & #3 cyl. The EGT's on the Dynon could have all 4 EGT's if you wanted them. Many just have #3 & #4 cyl EGT's hooked up. It really depends on your personal aircraft setup. EGT probes are cheap and since you already have everything you need for them to be functional you should replace those probes if they are bad.

    Does your engine have a coolant thermostat? If so I would look here for the problem first.
    The fluid level at the cap may be up, but you can still have an air void in the system. Make sure there is coolant throughout and all air is purged.
    If nothing is blocking air to the radiator then I would suspect you have a coolant flow blockage unless there was some reason to suspect the water pump after some maint. work, but they are fairly trouble free.
    You may want to disconnect the coolant radiator and flush it well. Start by back flushing. From the outlet side back through the inlet side. If coolant hoses have not been replaced within this 1600 hrs. and or the 5 year rubber replacement program then I would not hesitate to get this done too.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


  • Re: 912ULS High CHT. can't determine why

    by » 9 years ago


    I'll replace the EGT probes for sure. Does anyone know a part number or source I cans order them? I'm beginning to wonder if my CHT probes could be bad. I just went out and removed all hoses, back flushed radiator, made sure each hose had patent flow. Hooked everything back up, filled with 0.3 gallons dexcool, ran for 30 seconds then topped off with additional 0.1 gallon. Ran without cowl and CHTs were about 230. Cowled up and took for loop in pattern and cht got to 270. I landed and let it run on ground for about 20 minutes and CHTs remained about 230-255. This entire time oil temp never got above 218 and most of the time was 205-210. I'm gonna have my AP look at it this week, I just can't figure it out. I don't have a coolant temp gauge on this plane. If we figure anything out I'll update on here. Thanks for all the advice

  • Re: 912ULS High CHT. can't determine why

    by » 9 years ago


    So I took the plane over this morning to local AP that is certified on rotax. He suspected maybe air in the coolant lines, so I spent the rest of the day cranking plane, running up, letting cool off, check coolant. The first two times I topped off with small amounts of coolant, but the last three times it was full after cooling down. I flew around the pattern 3 times, the CHTs continued to run up to 260 or more. I guess my question is what should I start checking next? Should I continue doing this in hope that some air pocket will work its way out or is 5-6 times thru this process enough to eliminate that as an option? What is next, checking the waterpump/impeller or is this more likely a potential lack of fuel flow. The engine seems to be running soundly other than cht indications. Oil temp never gets high than 218. Any advice is appreciated.

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