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My plane ran well when I flew 1.5 hours Saturday. After I stopped to talk to a friend at another airport and took off, my engine on takeoff sounded like the exhaust was open at one cylinder. I almost aborted, but being a long runway I climbed, circled and (probably poorly) decided to fly the 10 minutes home while scoping out farm fields enroute (with my bush plane). The engine produced full rpm during takeoff and normal cruise and all the temperatures were normal. I tried to talk myself out of the sound. If you could not hear, there would be no indication of a problem. I have not flown it since.

The engine starts normal, but when I ‘blip’ the throttle (not something I normally do), it immediately makes a sound like an old tractor (exhaust sounding), more pronounced the faster I 'blip'. I checked the carb balance, and they were spot on both at idle and higher rpms. All the pipes are torqued at 133 in-lb nuts to the studs. The exhaust looks intact after careful inspection even under the heat muff; and when I hold a rag over the exhaust, although it does not stall, I do not hear any obvious break hissing. When I do a 4000 rpm mag check (which passes as normal), I continue to hear the same 'tractor exhaust-like' sound on either mag (and on either mag throughout the rpm range). At idle, everything sounds normal. I plan to do (but have not yet done) a differential pressure check (but I expect it will be normal) - it did 5 hours ago. I did check the prop bolt torques, and they were correct. I removed one plug from each cylinder and they all looked correct. I checked the torque on all plugs and they were correct. Could this be the gearbox (doesn’t sound it to me, but I have no experience here)?

I have not confirmed where the noise originates. I may try a stethoscope.

What can this be? Help.
  • Re: Farm Tractor Farm Tractor noise - early 912UL

    by » 8 years ago


    Hi Dennis,

    This one is tough since we are just talking about sound. If everything is running well and no odd running characteristics and it's just a sound issue then I would think another hard look at the exhaust and a differential compression test so see if a valve is slightly open accentuating the exhaust noise.

    I'm reaching a little here, but you have to start somewhere.

    Roger Lee
    LSRM-A & Rotax Instructor & Rotax IRC
    Tucson, AZ Ryan Airfield (KRYN)
    520-349-7056 Cell


    Thank you said by: Dennis Urban

  • Re: Farm Tractor Farm Tractor noise - early 912UL

    by » 8 years ago


    I would really carefully check the exhaust under the heat muff, maybe you already have, for a crack or leak. Plugging the main exhaust outlet wouldn't stall the engine because there is an alternate way out thru the heater system. Make sure you check for CO in the cabin.

    Thank you said by: Dennis Urban

  • Re: Farm Tractor Farm Tractor noise - early 912UL

    by » 8 years ago


    I also lean towards the exhaust system having a problem.
    If you are getting full power and gauges are in the green , the major player in sound/noise is the exhaust system.

    What aircraft type ? This might be useful to visualize the engine setup, a picture is also good.

    Thank you said by: Dennis Urban

  • Re: Farm Tractor Farm Tractor noise - early 912UL

    by » 8 years ago


    Thanks guys. Still not solved. It is a 1997 Rans S-7 Courier with 80hp Rotax SN 4005199 with 378 hours, no clutch. And BTW, I have a BW Carbon Monoxide detector I use all the time, and it shows no CO except while on the ground idling or in slow climb (as it always has). I went to the airport today; I had planned to record the sound, but forgot the recorder. Tried with an Android, but it’s not worth posting – bad recording. I will go back and use a better recorder on Saturday. And I will take pictures, but other than the installation, not sure you will see what’s wrong.

    Warmed up and took compression and differential pressures. By cylinder:

    1 – 133psi – 79.5/80
    2 – 134psi – 78/80
    3 – 150psi – 80/80
    4 – 146psi – 79/80

    At this point I tried to convince myself that this sound is in my head (yes, I can be dumb). So I flew to another friend’s airport. When I landed he said he did not recognize me, I sounded different, something is wrong. He insisted and we opened the cowling and both looked at things while I revved the engine. I decided to fly home and it performed flawlessly except for the raucous sound. Sure sounds like broken exhaust; but I cannot locate a crack even at the welds or looking at the heads. If I had a spare exhaust, I would try that.

    Thanks for all the support. I should not fly again until I fix this. I will try to record the sound and post it. Just wondering: I rebuilt the carbs 6 hours ago. Although they are in sync, could it be that something is incorrect in one carb? The air flow vacuum would still be the same with the same throttle plate opening even if the gas is flowing poorly, no? But the plugs look ok color disproving that theory. They worked fine for the first 5 hours, start well, and idle, cruise well, no vibration (whisky compass jumps around when out of synch, and it is very still) – and I checked with a vacuum gauge. Just a thought since these are a recent events only 5 hours apart.

    Frustrating. And I must say, simple as the exhaust looks, despite my carefull examination, I am leaning toward that as the cause given all the other items being in the green. Perhaps it is broken under a clamp at the head hidden where I might have missed it. Probably not the muffler under the heater muff (which I removed to check) even though the CO detector registers zero.

  • Re: Farm Tractor Farm Tractor noise - early 912UL

    by » 8 years ago


    Question: Can you really do a thorough inspection of the exhaust without removing it?

    Thank you said by: Dennis Urban

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