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  • Re: Regulator/Rectifier

    by » 6 years ago


    I am surprised no one else has weighed in on this? I would especially like an opinion from Rotax Admin.

  • Re: Regulator/Rectifier

    by » 6 years ago


    I'll weigh in on this. I'm in the process of designing, building, and installing the electrical system for my new 912UL hung on the front of my Zenith 701 STOL, and I'm using the factory wiring diagram in the Rotax engine Installation manual as a general guide. I've had to educate myself as to aircraft electrical systems in general and this Ducati R/R in particular. Along the way I've learned the "factory wiring diagram" will work, but it has issues, and some are safety issues as far as I'm concerned. For example, if one were to wire the Ducati regulator as depicted in the manual, and wire the the battery directly to two items- the starter relay and battery master relay- as depicted in the installation manual, it certainty will allow you to start the engine. However, if one were to do so- and I wonder how many have- should either the start switch fail internally in the start position, or the start relay fail in the closed position at the moment one releases the start switch because the engine started as expected- the starter will continue to operate, and one would have no electrical means by which to shut down the engine. Not a good situation. So,after speaking to the Rotech technician regarding this issue (he was looking at the factory wiring diagram as we spoke over the phone and his response, and I'm paraphrasing here, was "hmm, I'll be darned") I'm deviating from the factory guide a bit. I'm wiring from battery only to the battery master relay, then from the battery master relay to the starter relay.This way I can interrupt power to the starter relay if need be by turning off the battery master. As a side note, I also asked the Rotech rep if there were any other Rotax sources for basic wiring diagrams for the Rotax 912 series engines other than their manuals. The answer is no, but he referred me to Bob Nuckolls' Aerolectric Connection. Also, after researching how an external regulator works, I've also come to the conclusion Mr. Miller's advice to separate the Control/Field wire from the regulator's output wires is sound and that's the way mine will be wired.
    Just my $.02
    Jim

  • Re: Regulator/Rectifier

    by » 3 years ago


    I am in the process of designing the wiring for the 912ULS in my RANS S-19 LSA.  I've been researching the topic about connection of the "C" lead on the voltage regulator.  I looked at the VANS RV-12 wiring diagram and I was on board with the discussion about switching the "C" lead separately (i.e. not tying it to the B+ and R lines) until I came across this in the Rotax Installation manual:

    "Never sever connection between terminal C and B of regulator (e.g. by removal of a fuse) while the engine is running. Overvoltage and regulator damage can occur!  During engine stop break circuit between battery and terminal C to avoid discharge of battery!"

    So I called Lockwood Aviation (large Rotax distributor) and tech support confirmed the statement above.

    Given this information I will be wiring the "C" signal on my 912ULS as shown in the Rotax Installation wiring diagram (directly connected to the B+ and R signals).  I agree that if the master is turned off with the engine running that the generator will continue to power the bus--the 25A breaker will need to be pulled to remove the generator power from the bus when the engine is running.

    Another comment:  the "C" signal is definitely an input to the regulator.  If you look at the regulator schematic you can see that this is a "signal" input and does no have any high amperage that would require a fuse or breaker.  Some wiring diagrams show the "C" signal as if it was a "field current" (like used in alternators) but this is not the case--it is a voltage sense input to the regulator.  No breaker/fuse should be installed in this line.  The 912ULS generator uses permanent magnets--the "C" signal is not like field current in an alternator.

     


  • Re: Regulator/Rectifier

    by » 3 years ago


    It’s a poorly worded statement.

    They are referring to the B and C pins as a permanently joined unit. Its a warning to not remove the 25 amp fuse between these joined pins and the battery bus if the engine is running, or from opening the master relay for that matter.

    This warning has nothing to do with opening the C pin to turn off the regulator. 

     


  • Re: Regulator/Rectifier

    by » 3 years ago


    Thanks for your reply, Mike.  Can you explain a bit more?  Are you saying it is OK to switch the "C" signal (i.e. remove the bus voltage from it while the engine is running)?


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