Altitude and pressure
Flying high with a 914 I’ve noticed that the higher I get the lower the oil pressure goes. At take off it’s around 58 psi and at 15,500’ it has dropped to 38 psi. Anyone have a similar experience or is that just normal?
Flying high with a 914 I’ve noticed that the higher I get the lower the oil pressure goes. At take off it’s around 58 psi and at 15,500’ it has dropped to 38 psi. Anyone have a similar experience or is that just normal?
by Bill Hertzel » 3 years ago
I would ask if the Oil pressure goes back up as you descend?
I suspect that the Oil pressure is more dependent on the reduced Engine RPMs at cruise and the Oil thinning due to the increased temperature, which is probably at its peak after the 15,000 ft climb.
The thinner air at altitude, which offers less cooling, is probably balanced by the cooler air which offers more.
This all sounds mostly normal and expected.
Bill Hertzel
Rotax 912is
North Ridgeville, OH, USA
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by Sam Purpura » 3 years ago
Yes, in the decent the oil pressure is climbing as you go down. As for the RPM their is no loss of RPM up high, still much less than WOT. I’m using a constant speed prop and keep the RPM at 5200 until the decent,then I use 5000 RPM and start seeing normal oil pressure around 11,000’.
by Rotax Wizard » 3 years ago
Hi Sam
Oil pressure in the dry sump affects your gauge pressure readings. It takes surface pressure on the oil in the tank to help the oil back to the oil pump. if you drop pressure, as in fly higher, on top of the oil then the reading will naturally go down. As you note when you fly back down the pressure will increase. This is also dependent on your oil system in your aircraft. At about 10,000 ft you will lose about 5 psi pressure and this may be more if you have some restrictions in the system. At 15,500 you would expect to see at least 7 to 8 psi drop from sea level readings.
With extreme altitude in drones some are fitted with special systems to add extra pressure into the oil tank to compensate for this pressure change.
Cheers
by James Butcher » 6 months ago
I've just encountered this drop in oil pressure at altitude during recent testing at 14,500 MSL, 18,500 DA.
LEAF advises Rotax is aware of the problem as it is being encountered with 915 and 916 engines being operated at high altitudes. Apparently Rotax will offer a check valve for the oil tank vent to keep higher pressure in the tank to have more pressure at the pump inlet.
I've not had much success in sourcing a suitable valve.
Jim Butcher, Europa XS
by Rotax Wizard » 6 months ago
The concept of a valve comes from some high altitude drone operations. While this idea works, Rotax is not going to make a kit or bulletin on how the device. In as much as manned flight pretty much keeps you to 15k feet or lower, there is little reason to worry as long as you are in the green with oil pressure.
I have seen only one aircraft fitted with such a device, given it is something that requires input from the pilot to turn in on and off inflight I would not worry that much about it. Adding complexity might not be worth the risk.
Cheers
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